The writing on the wall
Iraq is becoming an American nightmare. This coming from no less a person than retired Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez who used to be the top man in Iraq not too long ago. It's weird because I was thinking about the guy 2 nights ago as to where he had disappeared (very much like Camp Rhino in Qandahar, Afghanistan, where the Americans were beat out by the Taliban long back and none of this has ever made it to mainstream Western media).
This is the same man who at one time harped on about how brilliant George Bush's strategies in Iraq were. It seems now that he never agreed to monkeyman and his cronies - it was all a facade for the outside world's consumption that everything was in order in the American corridors of power. It reminds me of the verse of the Qur'an:
"...thou wouldst think they were united, but their hearts are divided: that is because they are a people devoid of wisdom." (Quran 59:14)
Devoid of wisdom indeed! The writing is on the wall and the Americans have to leave Iraq some day. The turks are already getting involved in this war and this entire region of ours is in turmoil because of the West meddling in our affairs. Mullah Omar's statement today requires a lot of introspection from our leaders who are standing on one leg doing America's dirty work and supporting their nefarious designs. No matter how much one may disagree with the Taliban's style of ruling, his words need to be taken seriously in a changing sequence of events where clearly the "terrorists" are winning.
Seymour Hersh was on "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" on CNN a few nights ago. He was talking about how the hawks in the whitehouse are shifting their rhetoric from Iran's nuclear program (which the American public and the world at large isn't buying after seeing the intelligence "failure" in Iraq) to Iran's interference in Iraq. This seems an idea the American government can sell to the gullible masses in the West and Sarkozy of France is already onboard! The Westerners are being hoodwinked again and the stage is being set for an American attack on Iran. It seems the US is hellbent on bleeding itself to death!
This is the same man who at one time harped on about how brilliant George Bush's strategies in Iraq were. It seems now that he never agreed to monkeyman and his cronies - it was all a facade for the outside world's consumption that everything was in order in the American corridors of power. It reminds me of the verse of the Qur'an:
"...thou wouldst think they were united, but their hearts are divided: that is because they are a people devoid of wisdom." (Quran 59:14)
Devoid of wisdom indeed! The writing is on the wall and the Americans have to leave Iraq some day. The turks are already getting involved in this war and this entire region of ours is in turmoil because of the West meddling in our affairs. Mullah Omar's statement today requires a lot of introspection from our leaders who are standing on one leg doing America's dirty work and supporting their nefarious designs. No matter how much one may disagree with the Taliban's style of ruling, his words need to be taken seriously in a changing sequence of events where clearly the "terrorists" are winning.
Seymour Hersh was on "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" on CNN a few nights ago. He was talking about how the hawks in the whitehouse are shifting their rhetoric from Iran's nuclear program (which the American public and the world at large isn't buying after seeing the intelligence "failure" in Iraq) to Iran's interference in Iraq. This seems an idea the American government can sell to the gullible masses in the West and Sarkozy of France is already onboard! The Westerners are being hoodwinked again and the stage is being set for an American attack on Iran. It seems the US is hellbent on bleeding itself to death!
posted by al-republican at 5:01 AM
26 Comments:
What exactly is your point, Al?
People change their minds all the time. Opposing the Iraq war has become a fad of lately even amongst hardliners...I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the man's word.
Unless of course it serves your confused agenda, Al.
Seymour Hersh has an agenda. He is not necessarily an undisputed reliable source.
Mullar Omar is a nutcase. I don't think you should take seriously anything the Tailban say or do.
"bleed to death"??
I propose a wager:
I put my money on western democracy and ideology, worldwide. You put your best bet on medieval religious doctrine, regional.
Let's meet again in twenty years and you can pay me then.
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bleed to death!
Yes the poor soldiers. The brave, courageous ppl who declare war based on fictitious intelligence never bleed. If these ppl were atually to bleed, there would be no such wars.
These wars are usually against countries without any ablity to defend themselves.
Those countries who have the ablity to retaliate against "Mordor" get the chance to negotiate.
-FR
Nick,
Socialist democracy, yes.
Capitalist democracy the one which is promoted by west is too cruel to endure for too long. Although free market system appears as well accept gradually ppl will realise it is not the ideal system, there are other systems which are as good if not better.
-FR
FR,
Having been brought up in a 'socialist' democracy I am aware of its advantages, but even more acutely aware of its disadvantages.
I prefer to pay my own way in a free market system. Globalisation of trade has brought more good to more poor people than socialism could ever dream to do.
This is why the 'western' capitalist democracy is winning across the world. People want to be free to make decisions and work hard and enjoy the spoils. It's human nature to be better than their peers. Totalitarian ideologies like socialism and religions have tried to supress that. That's why they are failing.
"It's human nature to be better than their peers"
Agreed!It's one of the basic instincts, just like the simple creatures.
Should we not try to evolve further, into being not controlled by such simple needs? Aspiring for some higher goals.
"This is why the 'western' capitalist democracy is winning across the world"
Does the world at large know what it takes to keep this "Western capitalist democracy" attractive and running? Hide all it draw backs.
Perhaps WCD is right way to the future, but should it be force fed to ppl/countries who are not interested? If indeed it should be the scandinavian model may be more appropriate rather than the one that is being aggressively marketed and exported.
-FR
FR,
the 'scandinavian model' is perfectly OK for slackers.
I agree there is no better place in the entire world than Sweden or France or Holland or Austria if you are uninterested in personal achievement and advancement and creating wealth for yourself and the economy and just want a simple small life.
That's no longer feasible though. Countries have to be and stay competetive in a global market and Europe is falling behind because of the entrenched entitlements to free rides for all.
In a group of friends (or family) If only one person has all the acheivements/advancement,the good things and happiness (if at all he can be happy)not a desirable situation. But imagine if everyone has something to be happy about?
WCD with all its wonders have not been able to eradicate poverty (pls do not compare it with Bangladesh) Ppl do not have to live in cardboard boxes in Sweden. Perhaps these ppl are not meant to be and have no right to blemish the bright picture but they do exist.
If one only cares for self and momentary instant pleasures WCD is the way to go although the sales of Antiderpressant might suggest otherwise (though this could be due to the wonders of marketing).
-FR
AR you may be right (unfortunately)
The President is back to scaring the world with dire consequences like WW3. The "land of pista" being dangerous to a few nations was not enough to scare the world. So now the whole world at danger from a country which in the recent memory has only defended itself. May Amighty save us from these self appointed Angels.
-FR
I so agree with Nick. (well said mate!)
Being German, I can assure you that this often praised model is no “longer feasible” and there is an urgent need for reforms in many European nations.
Just to give you one simple example: Roughly 50% of German Ph.D. holders are leaving Germany to work abroad (especially in the US) – now that already shows that there is something wrong with the system, doesn’t it?
ANON (FR) please give yourself a name :-) - you are not anonymous anyhow, no matter how many proxies you use, so just please make life easier for us.
7Summits
You scare me. Reminds me of the movie Matrix!
Its strange, in the movies the big bad guys are always from huge, powerful organizations and the hero is usually the underdog with very few resouces except the old fashioned wit, courage, determination and loyal friends. In real life its exactly opposite.
Nick.
About the 20 years.
If WCD keeps up the growth rate, consuming the resources of the world with wanton abandon and polluting the planet without a second thought. Perhaps we could expect another deluge in the near future. Wonder who's going to be Noah this time.
-FR
Nick & 7Summits
Gentlemen are right, the WCD are prevailing at present they are being promoted by very powerful forces.
Is it the right system just because it is a success? Just because its able to steam roll everything on earth.
We are unable to eradicate diseases caused by microbes they have been winning always we just delay the inevitable does this mean that they are good and we are evil. In spite of all the technology and resources. We have not been able to control crime and the criminals seem to be holding their own if not growing stronger. Does it mean that they are good. Success the way it is being potrayed by exponents of WCD is just not convincing enough.
If one can attain peace, happiness and a sense of fulfillment by accumulation of personal wealth and achievement. This without any thought of the means used to attain the same (many times at the cost of others)then the world is heading in the right direction. If on the other hand one aims for true happiness and fulfill the need for higher values. Where ones happiness is increased when everyone around is happy. The search for a better system should conitnue.
-FR
7Summits
German Profs are going to US. Is it because they (destination) are not producing enough of their own? Or are their Ph.D. holders off to some other place? Or are your guys attracted by the freedom and liberties.
Now if Germany cannot hold against WCD what chance do others have?
-FR
FR,
If WCD keeps up the growth rate, consuming the resources of the world with wanton abandon and polluting the planet without a second thought.
Huh?? You have to make a distinction here between the 'west' and the model of western capitalism. That one has spawned hundred bastard sons all over the globe:
China and India are already the greatest polluters, and with all due respect, the 'West' did not impose 'WCD' on those countries. Don't blame every evil on us, mate.
I today heard on the radio that Abu Dhabi has the greatest water consumption per head in the world.
Is that the fault of the West, too?
If, as you say the developing world was really just 'aping' the west I would be really happy indeed - because they would ape - apart from democratic freedoms, low flush toilets, recycling of waste, taxing of cars according to pollutants and they would predominantly use public transport in urban environments etc. etc.
How are India and China "polluters", Nick?
Meaning consumption of fossil based fuels and resultant 'carbon footprint', Al.
And Bollywood stinkers, of course.
How are India and China "polluters", Nick?
Perhaps you guys could work out the per capita pollution of China n US. Could be a surprise.
-FR
See you guys if we survive the next WCD adventure accross the P Gulf.
Thank you guys!
Nice of you to have patience and express you views.
Sayonara!
-FR
Wwaaaaaay offtopic Al, you've been tagged. http://blog-uaeian.blogspot.com/2007/10/tag-time.html
Perhaps some reminiscing might ease the heavy duty talks here :)
"And Bollywood stinkers, of course."
Finally! truth & wisdom meets with Nick ;)
nick-i have one name for you: Adam Curtis... google video it.
Mullah Omar is as much a nutcase a Dubya & Blair-in fact-i do not think he has even a fraction of the death toll these two lying war criminals have on their hands, leave alone the obvious question of whether the man did ANYTHING WRONG by asking the US government for a 3rd party country to try Osama-and for proof of his involvement in 9/11 to hand him over. Proof which was never provided when Afghanistan was bombed 'back into the stone age' - a country already ravaged by 20 years of war-how brave of the WCDs to do that!
I cannot even be bothered to argue further until you do your homework:
Adam Curtis - google video.
-Truthteller
@ anonymous ^,
This is not a pissing contest for mass murderers.
The fact that other so-called leaders have blood on their hands doesn't absolve Mullar Omar (or anyone else) from his crimes.
Hello I was one of the last Marines to leave Camp Rhino,and I can assure you there were no Taliban anywhere near me.In fact the only "action" seen at Rhino was a camel getting shot by members of my company(which contrary to media reports was found,and found to be very dead),and the company on the other side of the runway reporting "bad-guys" which resulted in our mortars firing at the "bad guys".No bodies were found,though a sandal was.Also that same night a Huey helicoptor crashed landed in a dust storm at the base.Camp Rhino WAS abadoned because it was only a stepping stone to Qandahar.The runway at Rhino was dirt and sucked immensely,Whilst the runway at Qandahar was concrete(not to mention that it had infrastructure while Rhino had none).So just wanted to point out that your "fact" about "Taliban driving out US from Rhino" wasn't in any way what actually happened.I can only assume the rest of your posts are as richly informative.
Cheers
Interesting to know.
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